It is now clear that scenes of fire and vandalism were part of the Basiji-Play to complete the second phase of coup d'etat ...
They sought violence; were overwhelmed by people's number and resolve; but they sought violence ...
In early hours of Sunday, Mousavi's nephew gets assassinated--in hope of stirring emotions and a fired statements from Mousavi! This plot fails. Mousavi says that his nephew is just one of the many who have been killed and not different than others. The news of his shooting is still fresh that the farcenews and the IRNA rush to announce that he was assassinated by the bullets that were used to assassinate Neda too! This is when the body is in the Ebn-Sina Hospital, attended to by the family of the victim--including his uncle Mousavi. The day after, when family presents itself to receive and bury the body, they find it missing! Almost half a day later Tehran's prosecutor issues a statement that the body is not missing but is in the forensic unit! (how the Farce news knew about the bullet type when the body was still warm and prior to autopsy is a mystery!!!). The body is still "missing" but Keyhan, Khamenei and thug's mouthpiece has declared that it was Mousavi who had plotted his nephew's assassination!!
In all videos I watched, I found it peculiar that in scenes of people beating the security, it was the uniformed people (many may be duty soldiers) who were beaten by a minority; while a large number of greens are trying to prevent the beating ... How come there are no scenes of (ununiformed) basijis being beaten? From eyewitness accounts, the ones who are SCARY, violent, harassing, and violating are the Basijis ...
They have hired thugs ...
Those who have heard them confirm that they speak thug's lingo ...
They look like rapists, sadists, mentally sick psychos ... they are out of "criminal's rehabilitation" program that Mr Ahmadinejad prides himself in! Ahmadinejad, a man who promotes cheaters to his cabinet and dopers to lifetime positions at the helm of the country's sports. Ahmadinejad, who lies, who cheats, who lectures Europeans on freedom of speech, who sees a halo of light surround him when he utters his nonsense at the UN. If criminals with proven plagiarism can become ministers of science; why can't criminals with proven rape and theft become Police?!
To them, the opponent is an animal ... they herd them as animals; and kill them by driving over them thrice ... and then give each other high-five: shouting: Eyval, Eyval, Eyval ... the word used by subclasses of culture and civility ... these words do not even belong to religious fanatics ... I shriek ... people of faith do not say ey-val; do not give each other thumbs up for beating fellow humans with batons ... and Geen kids get themselves in between to STOP the beating of their enemy, their sworn enemy ...
I am proud that the Green leadership (which is by no means one person, one party or one unit) has come from different corners to loudly and clearly state that the Green movement is committed to peace; that it is not a violent movement; that it shall not raise arms ... but the way I imagine the dogs who are unleashed on people, I cannot envision how one can avoid getting violent in self-defense. But I know one thing: these dogs get their energy from the "ability" to confront the beautiful opponent; how can we strip them of that source while still remaining on the scene?
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That's a video I hadn't seen. It's related to an incident at an IRIPF police station on (or near) Vali Asr Square, of which there are at least two more videos from different sources.
The police station was stormed and sacked by protesters, then set ablaze. At least two of the police officer occupants were beaten by protesters. The first IRIPF utility truck to run over the victim appears to do so as part of an ongoing fight with the protesters, while the second truck appears to be fleeing the fight. (They are surrounded by elements of an angry mob, not that I'm in any way condoning this violence.)
Just awful, Naj. I abhor civil disorder. There was a complete breakdown of order in this section of Tehran during Ashura.
BTW: I've seen at least three or four videos of Basijis being surrounded and beaten by protesters, one losing several of his front teeth in the process. There's also a video of a Basij base being sacked and set ablaze (as well as a bank with Basiji connections).
Mark,
I know you are sympathetic to police and miliatry violence; but:
surrounded by elements of an angry mob
I would like you to analyze this video and show me where are these angry mobs?! People were running away while a truck hits and another runs; then they start running to the site of accident .
Also, can you please point me to videos where Basijis were beaten? (If they were, good for them, they deserved it! Anyone who beats people with Batons deserves a good spanking!)
the Basij base being sacked ... did you know that within a couple of hours that sacked basiji kiosk was completely removed and signs of burning completely ereased?
• Naj’s findings seem extraordinary remarkable – and relevant :
»In all videos I watched, I found it peculiar that in scenes of people beating the security, it was the uniformed people (many may be duty soldiers) who were beaten by a minority; while a large number of greens are trying to prevent the beating ... How come there are no scenes of (ununiformed) basijis being beaten? From eyewitness accounts, the ones who are SCARY, violent, harassing, and violating are the Basijis ...«
• Some thoughts and assumptions referring these findings :
There usually is a division or separation of the functions of the armed executive organs of the
state, the army and the police. The police are subordinate to the ministry of the interior ( of the state, of the respective federal state of a country, of the local authority/municipality) and represents the state internally , whereas the armed forces, the army, is commanded by the ministry of defence and secures the borders of the state or the state outside its borders.
With the creation of the IRGC and the basiji militia – for whatever understandable reason – this clear-cut distinction between the function of protecting public security and the function of defending the country against foreign outward threats and aggression has been blurred.
Thus alongside the regular army troops and the regular police force there is always a parallel politically-religiously committed parallel organization to be played off against each other or rather to ideologically control, influence and push the regular armed executive organs [, which somehow reminds one of the parallel organization of communist systems with institutions established on a purely functional basis and the more influential and relevant parallel organizational units on the different levels of the communist party].
To be added is the aspect of the commercial, economic and financial activity and involvement of the IRGC, which thus permeates the whole of society.
Not an easy task to tackle for the Iranian “green” movement for more democracy.
[Apologies for discussing aspects clear and obvious to each and any Iranian, but possibly not to the one or the other of your non-Iranian readers and commentators.]
Hallo Naj,
thankful for your gigantic work [your blog]
and wishing you a happy new year
remains
with best wishes for you
and your country
Publicola
[formerly writing under the pseudonym "German"]
Naj,
your findings
- »In all videos I watched, I found it peculiar that in scenes of people beating the security, it was the uniformed people (many may be duty soldiers) who were beaten by a minority; while a large number of greens are trying to prevent the beating ... How come there are no scenes of (ununiformed) basijis being beaten? From eyewitness accounts, the ones who are SCARY, violent, harassing, and violating are the Basijis ...« - , which I find highly remarkable,
are confirmed and supplemented by e.g. the following extract/excerpt [from the translated German (language) blog “Dust and Trash”]
»On the second video […] one sees that the security forceses are flogging and strking down peaceful demonstrators. One also hears gun shots. On the first video one sees, how two police cars even knock down and run over demonstrators. Videos appeared later, in which some supporters of the green movement answered with the throwing of stones. They felt in danger and defended themselves. Some furious supporters of the green movement also wanted to beat up the governent agents. Oppression for months or rather for years, torture and rape, killed friends and relative can explain this rage. After the security forceses had been disarmed [by some of the demonstrators], however, the majority protected the security forces of the government. Believe it or not: they protected people, by whom they had been beaten up were several times. The gathered crowd often shouted “Let him go”, if one of the participants of the rally lost his nerves and wanted the beat up the [now disarmed] security agent of the government. That now and then sounded like a new slogan.
[…] Those who in the photograph above protect the government agents, protect really the green movement, as the philosophy of this movement is peaceful as it has been peaceful right from its beginning. One of ist idols has been and will be Gandhi, whose most quoted maxim is: "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."
If the majoriy of the green movement were violent, some security agents of the government would certainly not be able to leave Teheran’s street alive.«
Saturday, 2nd January, 2010
http://dustandtrash.blogspot.com/
[a German (language) blog on Iran]
Yours
Publicola
Hello Naj,
in case you have already come across this article and video, please delete this posting. Otherwise:
The following brief Los-Angeles-Times-report and video confirms your statement on the question of "violence perpetrated by whom?"
»IRAN: Video shows gunman opening fire on demonstrators, who fight back
January 2, 2010
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kogEGf0wF8Q&feature=player_embedded
Iranian police have stated strenuously that security forces weren't armed with guns during Dec. 27 clashes in Tehran between security forces and protesters.
But newly discovered amateur video, apparently taken with a cellphone, tells a different story.
In the video, a man can be seen and heard opening fire on a crowd of unarmed demonstrators as a man cries out, "Dishonorable Basiji!"
The gunman appears to be a plainclothes security official, perhaps a Basiji militiaman or an intelligence operative working for the Revolutionary Guard.
Witnesses say such forces have been trying to terrorize protesters.
But there's a twist.
Even though he opens fire on the crowd, possibly wounding or killing demonstrators, the protesters don't scatter away.
Instead they fight back.
"Attack!" someone calls out.
The 47-second clip then shows the crowd of unarmed demonstrators, mostly men of all ages, chasing after the gunman.
-- Los Angeles Times
Video: A gunman's bullets don't scare off a crowd of unarmed demonstrators. Credit: YouTube «
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2010/01/iran-video-shows-gunman-opening-fire-on-demonstrators-who-fight-back.html
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