A new message from Karoubi has just been published.In his message, he first apologizes to his neighbors for the harassment the IRI thugs have created; for having them and their families to hear profanities that are not even expected from the governmental thugs (I suspect sexual profanities and insults shouted towards him and his family members.)
Next, he addresses some of the conservatives, like Mohsen Rezayee, Mahdavi Kani (he is promised Hashemi's job), Hasan Rohani and Ghalibaf, who had been silent to date about all these events, but who joined the camp of death-seekers for Mousavi, Karoubi, Hashemi and Khatami. Karoubi states that he understands that their statements are based on pressure from above; he draws attention to similar statements made by Abtahi, one of his consultants who was arrested, tortured and forced to make a televised condemnation of Karoubi.
He states that he understand that there is a concerted effort to bring them to trial and is asking only one favor from the conservatives who have just now joined the camp of anti-Greeners:
To push the judiciary to try them in public. Just like Shah did when they prosecuted Golsorkhi, Bokharayee and Taleghani and others ...
Karoubi expresses cynicism, based on the conduct of the national broadcasters to be objective and fair, but he asks the press be allowed to witness and publish his defense, where he wishes to establish "who" exactly is attempting an over-throw of the regime.
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United States Legal code:
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2385
§ 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
Thanks Naj. I loved Karoubi's statement. He is so direct. Thanks for writing about it. I am so impressed that he brought up Golesorkhi:-)
ha! Rowhani was my favorite to run for president last year, long before the nominees were announced.
I loved Karoubi's statement.
My grandmother always says that it's "aghebat bekheyri" that's the most important part of life. I groan and grumble whenever she says it, but who would have ever thought Karoubi, "dozdeh bonyad shahid" as my friends used to call him, would be so "aghebat bekheyr", loved and respected by so many?
I know I didn't.
Yes; what I like about him is that he is admitting that
"this is our doing; and we either need to fix it or die trying to" and I don't think there can be any apology more meaningful that this.
naj, do you think M & K did the right thing calling for protests on the 1st of esfand? (If they did it together, I saw it on kalemeh). I'm kind of ambivalent, I'm not sure what to think. They need to walk a very fine line. People want to protest, but they also want to live their lives, even if that's a dichotomy. I spoke to my aunts (not the real kind ;) on skype today and they (pretty "green" folks ;) who went with the entire family for 25 Bahman) were a bit agitated.
And there will be enough time for the thugs to round up for the 1st and lock the entire city.
Maybe M & K feel that the majority of greens aren't feeling like my aunts and will show up? Or maybe like many of us "reformers" (or ex-reformers) they now know full well that there is no chance for compromise, so they want to call for protests whenever possible?
Either way, I'm kind of confused.
Ped,
First look at this this asshole has joined the choir too?!
Next, since they are under house arrest, and the communication is cut, this movement is headless. A group of radicalized youth are taking over; I think at this stage what M & K advise is irrelevant!
These kids will do what they want. And violence is no longer off limits. They have been cheated; out of their election, out of their martyrs and also out of the image of civilian when thugs posed as protesters only to beat them up!
so, since we are outside, we should just sit and pray for them to not die in mass ... ordinary people will not protest ... but too much emotion is unleashed ... brace yourself for the worst my dear.
سعی کنید مودب باشید. گویا زیاد در میان بی ادبان غربی زندگی کرده اید.
مثل همهٔ آدمهای مزدوج، من هم تجربه دعوا با زنم را دارا میباشم.
دعوا چیزی ایست طبیعی است چون ما هر یک تجربه و ذهنیت خاص خود را دارا میباشیم که با یک دیگر ناچاراً تطبیق نمیکند.
ولی مثل دعواهای زناشویی که باید در آن حریم یک دیگر را نگاه داشت تا خود شالودهٔ ازدواج به هم نریزد، شما نیز باید حرمت من را و دیگران را نگاه دارید.
من از دعوا با شما هراسی ندارم و اگر هم زن من میبودید با وجود اختلاف شدید عقیدهٔ سیاسی شما را دوست داشته و احترام میگذاشتم.
چون این طوفانها می آیند و میروند - مثل بارانهای بهاری -ولی آنچه میماند الفت است و همبستگی که در طول زمان شکل گرفته اند.
مثل رابطه مجازی من و شما.
[چقدر آرزو داشته و دارم که به جای "شما" "تو" میگفتم.]
با تقدیم احترام
Pen Name,
You have no relationship with me.
When I said love-hate relationship, the "hate" part if what I have for you!
But I want you to comment here because I like to see what is happening in the "other's" head!
Yes, so we know each other in this way. Count that as a relationship for where else do you get to know someone else's mind initimately?
From these drops, rivers form.
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