This is disappointing!
Americans lost a great opportunity. I hope Iran shoves the Carrot and the Stick up Mr Biden's ... mouth! Now that is a CLEAR choice!
Update:
I woke up, still angry at Bidens statement and his !#@$!@ CLEAR choice for Iran. I expected the Iranian media to be flooded with angry statements by the Iranian government. But, they have wisely stayed mute! In Persian, we have a saying: "Best response to an idiot is silence!"
And the late Shah had another expression too: "Moon shines and dog howls!" Larijani's arriving in Spain for nuclear talks. I will keep you posted!
Kudos to Iranians! Dodged another American provocation!
It is now clear to me that Americans do not want "peace" with Iran. They want Iranian submission!
Well, I (a very non-religious, Western-dwelling, anti-Islamic Iranian woman) assure Mr Biden: over my dead body!
Iran will not submit to the will of the Zionist regime! You will either negotiate with Iran respectfully; or dig yourselves another deeper hole in the history! The one who is "on the wrong side of history" is the Zionist regime and its proxy: America!! The one who NEEDS Iran, to get them out of Afghanistan and Iraq is America! What can you do to Iran? Drop your nuclear bombs on it? Go ahead! You did it to Gaza. You did it to Lebanon! What did it bring other than shame and international condemnation.
You can slow us perhaps, but you cannot break our resolve!
UNCLENCH YOUR FIST Mr Biden. The loser in this stand off against Iran, against Cuba, against Korea, against Vietnam, against China, against Russia IS AMERICA! The end of Eurocentricism is a reality. Wake up to it!
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Hmm. I missed Biden's comments that were insulting to Iran. He does have a reputation for problems with getting his foot stuck in his mouth, so I am happy that Iranians are not making too big a deal out of his statements. Obama says change can happen, and it is clear to me that the world would benefit from an open dialogue without pre conditions between US and Iran. Let us first search out our common interests (peace) and then deal with our disagreements. Iran is in a very good position to help bring peace to its neighbors and can have a much greater influence on the US in this quest through positive dialogue with a hopefully changed US leadership that is more about cooperation than force. Lets stop throwing stones. Help US get out of Iraq and Afghanistan in a manner that leaves them in peace amongst themselves. I am looking forward to learning more about Iran and hearing more of Rummi.
Hmm. I missed Biden's comments that were insulting to Iran. He does have a reputation for problems with getting his foot stuck in his mouth, so I am happy that Iranians are not making too big a deal out of his statements. Obama says change can happen, and it is clear to me that the world would benefit from an open dialogue without pre conditions between US and Iran. Let us first search out our common interests (peace) and then deal with our disagreements. Iran is in a very good position to help bring peace to its neighbors and can have a much greater influence on the US in this quest through positive dialogue with a hopefully changed US leadership that is more about cooperation than force. Lets stop throwing stones. Help US get out of Iraq and Afghanistan in a manner that leaves them in peace amongst themselves. I am looking forward to learning more about Iran and hearing more of Rummi.
Choclosteve,
I am not throwing stones. I am spitting out warnings. I want peace ore than you can imagine. My entire LIFE is affected because of American policies. You cannot even begin to estimate HOW DEEP my frustration is.
Yet, I am, and have been working relentlessly to be part of the movement that is trying to show a way out of this deadlock.
Forgive my indignation when I see against ALL EVIDENCE, Mr Biden shoots off his moth as did Bush; promising "more pressure and isolation" on BOGUS CHARGES that Iran suuports "terrorism" and has "illicit nuclear actvity."
PROMISING punishment for ALLEGED, unfounded charges taht are brought about by NO ONE other than the Zionists ...
Sorry
go put the cotton in the mouth of those Zionists ... THEY ARE THE STONE THROWERS
And Biden just relayed their message like a stupid parrot
I am most disappointed at Biden!
Disgusted!
But I give them a chance to fix this confusion, which seems to have begun running through the entire Obama administration. ALREADY!
Because of the timing - and the fact that the speech was delivered by Biden and not Obama himself, I suspect that that speech was for the Israeli public. As you know, their elections are due on Tuesday. The US administration would surely prefer to have Kadima at the wheel rather than Likud. Recent polls show a tightening of voting preferences between those two, notably because Lieberman is bleeding support from Likud. In such circumstances, every little thing can help. Hence the speech. I may revise that opinion in the coming months, but for now that's all I think it is.
Naj,
This clip is 20 minutes long. It will inform you of how politics (and the MSM) have really worked here.
Greenwald and Rosen on Bill Moyers Journal.
I swear you think this is a democracy.
It's not. It never has been.
I told you my friend! The names have changed but the game is the same. I'm telling you! They will talk but they are fools thinking Iran is going to do what they say. Screw them, I told you Israel is in charge. I hate it! Nothing has changed!
Gene,
If that is the case, then as we say in Persian it's "an excuse worse than the sin"!!
To support Israeli murderers AFTER the world is uniting in their condemnation doesn't look so pretty on Mr Changeman!
Nunya:
Barnie Frank said something very nice to Meet the Press today (in response to sentor/reps's corruption) .. he said "it's voter's fault, they are not holding us to high enough standards." I concur!
Jim:
shaking my head in "yah i know, but it was a nice dream while it lasted!" (but i ain't givin' up yet! Israeli's hand is all revealed, but they are not the only players.
Tim:
you know why Iranians like Americans more than Europeans? BECAUSE they consider them more naive and child-like! ;)
Oh Putin's enjoying himself so much! Almost as much as Rush Limbaugh is!
Naj, this should put a little of balm on your wound. Not everyone is blind to what is going on, thank heaven!
And doing my usual round of my favourite blogs tonight, I found that the ever so sharp Jim Lobe agrees with you.
Barney Frank's constituents actually have some way to contact him.
I don't even think mine won the damn election.
This is what I get whenever I leave information on my congressman's website regarding a vote when I want him to represent me:
Message from 50th Congressional District
From: UnattendedMailboxBilbray@mail.house.gov
Sent: Wed 9/24/08 5:36 PM
To: xxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxx.xxxx
LOL! Off topic: You're in the news :-)
Bonjour Naj,
Didn't know you are such a Passionaria.
The United States are a colony of the tiny bonzoi state on the shores of the Mediterranean. But as the Americans seem to ignore this.....
Georg
Georg,
glad to see you again.
I didn't know i was such a Passionaria myself.
But you can imagine the extent of my contempt for this 'supposedly' Changoramas!!!!
I have cooled down. America's intent on shooting itself in the foot; not my problem!
Wake up indeed! Drop your nuclear bombs on it? Go ahead! You did it to Gaza. You did it to Lebanon! What did it bring other than shame and international condemnation.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Chocosteve,
Help US get out of Iraq and Afghanistan in a manner that leaves them in peace amongst themselves.
The best way to do this is to begin the withdrawal process today. We are doing nothing but stalling the inevitable (while building bases of course). We have left it a mess and the only people to solve it are those that live there and love their people.
Nunya:
Certainly:
People who think Europe is the center of universe are the arrogant assholes. These people are not necessarily European descendants, these people can be Iranian, can be Arab, can be Indian, can be Tanzanian or Kenyan, can be Chinese and etc. These people are oblivious to TWO major FACTS. One historical; one demographic.
The historical fact is that European culture is rather a juvenile one! For example compare it to the Chinese one! the historical fact is ALSO that the European culture (which is also very biblical (or anti-biblical) is also a very violent one; which has proven itself morally corrupt throughout the past few hundreds of years. What we are observing today is a result of a MAJOR flaw in the eurocentric philosophy: 1) That man is an animal and 2) that man is the substitute of god on earth. This is why the people who consider themselves god-like, e.g. Germans, are those who have acted most animal-like (no matter how well versed or dressed or armored they have been.)
The demographic naivite of eurocentric assumptions about the world stems from the fact that:
1) the European-minded humanoids are shrinking in numbers! Why? because they do not reproduce enough. As easy as that!
2) We are assuming that our "connected" world are making us 'more similar humans'. This is also untrue. MUCH of the population of the world is not equipped with electricity or communication networks that we take fore granted. Also, the part of the world that is not connected, is also not hampered by our eurocentric philosophical hangovers on whether we are human or we are god or we are animal or monkey or machine or etc!
But he most obvious of all factors is the world population. How many Asians are there on this earth? An Asian man or woman might look "modern"; but will not think or FEEL "modern". Don't go too far: listen to the tales of your own ancient Americ-Indian ancestors. I bet you that the texture of their 'life philosophy' is tangibly different from your Germanic neighbor!
All these factors, are showing themselves in our world today.
I am going to post a passage of a really great book I am reading. It will be further illuminating, I think.
Poetryman:
It is a false argument that withdrawal of NATO trops from Afghanistan or American Forces from Iraq will "solve the problem."
Withdrawing from Afghanistan will be DISASTEROUS! Afghans do not want that.
And Iraq is already broken ... it can but be fixed with a ruthless director like Saddam!
New post I promised to Nunya, also addresses your comment.
Naj,
Thank you for clarifying.
1) the European-minded humanoids are shrinking in numbers! Why? because they do not reproduce enough. As easy as that!
I understand this. You don't think that educated girls who grow into women that have access to birth control would choose to have less children? Everywhere (on the planet) that education for girls and birth control is available?
I don't know Nunya!
In your state, a woman who already had 6 children, received fertility treatment to give birth to 8 other!
She, and the freaking doctor who performed that procedure, were both educated and had access to brith control!
No, I don't think wish to have or not have children is universal! By NATURE, women are supposed to WANT children! But, it's one of those self-regulatory games of nature :)
Hey have you seen the movie "idiocracy?"
Naj:
You have finally understood the US position.
I hope that finally you understand why Global Arrogance must be resisted.
But be not worried - 1385 was when there was a great threat against US but God protected us.
إِنَّا فَتَحْنَا لَكَ فَتْحًا مُّبِينًا
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naj:
You have lived too long in Canada and forgotten how bad things are in Iran compared to the developed countries of Western Europe and North America.
I do not even like Europeans and Americans self-congradulatory attitude but the fact remains that the Western Civilization has been the dominant civilization on Earth for more than 400 years. They are, technically, better than us and we can still learn a lot from them.
That they are centered around themselves is not their fault and it is not their problem. Where are the scholars of Islam to challenge and rebutt them?
Alas, they are still trying to prevent women go to football stadium.
"The fault is in ourselves".
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